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lindsey louise's avatar

Indie sleaze is a coined term in the broadest sense, like hippie or other subcultures that are discussed after time of the ending. As someone who lived through this time, of course it’s not a term anyone used during then because that’s never how these movements were analyzed prior to current day with an influx of aesthetics rather than rooted subcultures. It’s generalized because that’s all that people can do who didn’t live during the time or know much about it. I don’t disagree, because of course it’s a marketing tool, but history often generalizes and lumps multiple groups and sub groups into one category that doesn’t make complete sense.

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Tom's avatar
Feb 21Edited

Subcultural groups are dead. Ive been watching old interviews of punks, mods, rockers, skinheads, and gay subgroups from the 60s-90s, and those categories absolutely don’t exist anymore. They were treated as circus freaks/ non-conformists by the traditional media at the time. But importantly these groups of individuals were resilient, rebellious, had a strong sense of community, politics and identity.

But Zoomers nowadays are too embarrassed to fully embrace one subs culture, it would be ‘too cringe’ or ‘trying too hard’. Instead, in postmodernity these eras have all been blended into one. The clothing fashion styles and the hairstyles are amalgamated into one ‘cool’ style.

The groups of people who dress in this new style all really represent/ stand for the same normie, conformist ideals. They don’t have a political identity behind their aesthetic identity, there’s no substance or culture beneath it, they just thought it looked cool on a mood board.

The millennial tumblr aesthetic & Brooklyn hipster aesthetic (circa 2010-2016) is kind of a re-imitation of skinhead fashion in the 1970s and 80s; rolled up skinny jeans, tucked in polos/shirts, suspenders, Dr.Martens but mixed in with modern elements such as beards, man buns, branded clothes. The tumblr/brooklyn hipsters didn’t listen to rebellious music, they weren’t oppressed by society, they weren’t punk rock. Their aesthetic was fulfilled by oat milk lattes, buzzfeed articles and by owning small dogs.

The new zoomer aesthetic is a re-imitation of late 90s, early 2000s hardcore skater culture. Baggy jeans, drop shoulder graphic tees, striped adidas shoes, mixed in with mullets, moustaches and short shorts from the 80s. The clothes aren’t ‘vintage or charity shop’, they’re expensive remakes of that style. Most zoomers are too embarrassed to get into a hardcore mosh pit, and would hate the idea of their phone being knocked out of their hand as they cannot film it. Rigid, stiff, sexless and allergic to dance.

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